Amplifying (i haven't read the news today. WTF prompted this?)

[elainegrey]

Response to Activation of Troops Under Insurrection Act____

“Quaker House is a manifestation of the Friends’ Peace Testimony.” This first sentence of our Mission Statement establishes the fact that we are opposed to all war, all militarism, and all senseless act of violence. Quaker House is opposed to the use of military personnel and resources in reaction to an imagined insurrection in California and other regions. We understand the use of these resources to be in violation of federal laws, the Constitution, and the basic human right to protest unlawful actions by a government. We are working with partner institutions to identify options and resources for military participants and civilians to oppose these actions and any potentially illegal orders given to the activated troops.

It is not clear what orders have been, or might be given, to military participants, which means that it is not possible for anyone to know what is or isn’t an illegal order. Quaker House and our allies are prepared to give the best advice and counsel that we can to anyone who has questions about any aspect of their participation, including any actual orders that have been received. No information provided by Quaker House or the GI Rights Hotline is intended to be legal advice and we are not qualified to give legal opinions.

Any current military participant looking for information and counseling should contact the GI Rights Hotline at 877-447-4487 or girightshotline.org https://girightshotline.org.

The Military Lawyers Task Force has issued a statement that can be accessed here https://nlgmltf.org/military-law/2025/mltf-statement-on-the-use-of-national-guard-and-active-duty-troops-to-control-opposition-to-ice-dhs-attempts-to-remove-undocumented-workers/.[1] The lawyers of MLTF are working to develop some kind of guidelines based on the available law for what may or may not constitute illegal orders.

 [1] https://nlgmltf.org/military-law/2025/mltf-statement-on-the-use-of-national-guard-and-active-duty-troops-to-control-opposition-to-ice-dhs-attempts-to-remove-undocumented-workers/

Comments

[snippy]

I think it's the protests in Los Angeles against ICE. The protests are spreading to other cities, e.g., Portland, OR (where I am).

[dewline]

There's going to be one of those "No Tyrants" events here in Ottawa, too.

(We call them "No Tyrants" up here because...well, we have a king in Canada, and he - and his mother as monarch before him - well, he knows how to behave. He learned from his forebears.)

[weofodthignen]

I don't know whether you really want to know ...





Courtesy gap ...

















I agree with Snippy, the context is LA, where ICE mass arrests have met with hefty protests, the kind the news likes to call riots. The National Guard was activated under federal control, and the Marines added a day or two later. Governor Newsom's office has posted on TikTok trump's Truth Social post post about the latter ... read by Emperor Palpatine ("X" link, sorry).

There have already been protests elsewhere, including SF, which are increasing as ICE does things like arresting aslylum applicants after they appear for their mandated periodic check-ins at the immigration court. And there was a full-page ad in the Chronicle on Sunday (paid for by Christy Walton, the Walmart widow philanthropist) calling for mobilisation on June 14. It doesn't give any details, but the organisation is No Kings ... on which Wikipedia's page is out of date.

[elainegrey]

Thanks -- it was more the question about the specific trigger for calling up the military, eg, what happened that qualified as "insurrection" when Jan 6 2021 did not. It appears the word has been thrown around but not used as legal justification.